How to improve progress of Sarge release?
status
- [2005-02-04] I talked with elmo. I've already offered my buildds, but he said he won't add them at this time. He has no time for validating it. It will be post-sarge issue (if elmo remember it...) to make my buildds official.
- [2005-01-04] Status is changed oftenly. Current blocker is DAK. DAK hasn't ability to support t-p-u and t-s. It is working by aba and aj. elmo and neuro are waiting their work. After DAK is completed, wanna-build will be modified by someone and elmo/neuro will make chroot t-p-u/t-s on their buildd machines.
So, following text is obsolete.
(I wonder why RMs didn't consider t-p-u/t-s need modifying DAK till aba starts working ...)
release blocker analysis
- RC?
- Base package looks be good shape.
- Just drop unmaintained packages.
- Do NMU.
- Debian-installer?
- Nope. We're ready to release final version = RC2.
- Toolchain, gcc, libc, kernel?
- Build environment?
why we don't have build environment?
- chroot environment of all release target architectures. We need 'root' access to set up and build. Only a few people have 'root'.
- We have already buildd for unstable.
- Security-team looks have their buildd for stable.
- aba is creating buildd for experimental/non-free/backports.
- We don't have some buildd for testing-proposed-updates. mips and alpha.
- We don't have buildd for testing-security. (Will testing-security become stable-security after Sarge is released?) There is no news about testing-security. No one care this work?
Status update
- (2004-12-19): aba is working to fix dak (Debian Archive Kit). When ftp maintainers accept it, we have a way to have testing-security and testing-proposed-updates.
- When?
- mips/alpha problem is solved?
- do testing-security machines exist already?
Architecture
- According to http://unstable.buildd.net/ (this site is closed because Sarge won't release),
- alpha: Thimo Neubauer, Ryan Murray [unstable], Andreas Barth [experimental].
- In Japan, Mutsumi Ishikawa has alpha.
- Thimo Neubauer has two alpha machines. Will he help us?
- arm: James Troup [unstable].
- In Japan, Kenshi Muto has arm.
- Will tbm help us?
- hppa: Lamont Jones [unstable], Andreas Barth [experimental].
- In Japan, Mutsumi Ishikawa has hppa.
- Fumitoshi Ukai and Yasuhiro Araki may have a permission to build at their office.
- Lamont will help us.
- i386: Ryan Murray [unstable].
- In Japan, almost people (includes Kenshi Muto) have i386.
- Many poeple can help us.
- ia64: Lamont Jones [unstable].
- In Japan, Shigeo Noshiro have ia64.
- Lamont will help us.
- m68k: Many :-) [unstable], Matthias Urlichs [experimental]
- (It's hard to buy new m68k machine.)
- In Japan, Mutsumi Ishikawa has m68k.
- At least One of m68k build admin will help us.
- mips: Ryan Murray, Martin Loschwitz, Stephen Frost [unstable], Andreas Barth [experimental].
- (It's hard to buy new mips machine.)
- In Japan, Mutsumi Ishikawa has mips (Indy). This machine is borrowed from Motonobu Takahashi, Japanese Samba hacker.
- Martin's machines are 'unofficial'.
- Stephen has one mips machine. Will he help us?
- mipsel: Ryan Murray [unstable].
- (It's hard to buy new mipsel machine.)
- PS2 Linux is mipsel, but it has a problem around kernel (libc will crash).
- In Japan, Mutsumi Ishikawa has mipsel (Cobalt Cube2).
- powerpc: Dan Jacobowitz [unstable].
- In Japan, some people have powerpc. Susumu Osawa have ppc machine.
- Will Dan help us? Martin-Finc can help us.
- s390: Gerhard Tonn [unstable].
- (It's hard to buy new s390 machine.)
- In Japan, Masanori Goto has VM account on s390 (but disk size is limited).
- Will Gerhard help us?
- sparc: James Troup [unstable], Andreas Barth [experimental].
- In Japan, Masanori Goto has sparc machine.
- Will some people help us?
Status
- For the first step, I (Kenshi Muto) am working to setup experimental buildd.
- experimental buildd is conducted by Andreas Barth, not by official buildd team. I know official buildd team's response level is low.
- Andreas added my ssh key into his central buildd machine, but some of configuration are needed. Waiting Andreas's mail.
archs
| alpha
| arm
| hppa
| i386
| ia64
| m68k
| mips
| mipsel
| ppc
| s390
| sparc
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owner
| ishikawa
| kmuto
| ishikawa
| all
| noshiro
| ishikawa
| ishikawa
| ishikawa
| osawa
| gotom
| gotom
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buildd
| working
| working
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- After receiving Andreas's permission, I'll upload to built packages to Debian.
- Is my working really helpful for Sarge? I dunno... But I can say I'm ready to create t-s or t-p-u for Debian.
Observation
- James Troup and Ryan Murray are important persons for Debian work. But unfortunately they are too busy to communicate others.
Last modified : 2005/02/04 22:40:21 JST